Interviewed 1980 by Heather Wrigley p.29.

HW Where did he go on a Sunday?

SHAW Oh he, well for instance if he [father] wanted a big trip, we'd start off early in the morning and we'd go to Armadale. and it took most of the morning to get there.  Then we'd give the horse a rest and a feed and we'd come home again.  Where else did we go?  Well we could to places like Nedlands, which was a very small place in those days.  Peppermint Grove.  Mostly they were river beaches we went to.  Cottesloe, if we went to Cottesloe we went in the train.

HW Take a picnic lunch?

SHAW Take a picnic lunch, yes.  We used to have one of these.... what do you call them, the.....

HWA hamper?

SHAW Yes, a basket, we've got them in the museum there.  Two baskets, go one on top of the other.  That's how we took our tucker in that.  If we went to Cottesloe we went on a train, and walked from the beach.  There were cabs there.  I think they charged three pence to the beach.

p. 62.

SHAW For instance where we had picnics, well all the church people came, it was a church picnic.  Just the same as we used to have Sunday School picnics, they were mostly down to the river.  They used to hire a furniture van, with a horse drawn, and they'd all hop into this and go down to Crawley, Crawley Beach or somewhere like that.  Somebody else with a horse and cart would probably take a copper, a portable copper down before, say at nine o'clock in the morning, so that it would get there before them, and have the copper boiling.  Organised, that sort of thing, and trestle tables laid out and that sort of thing.  There was nothing elaborate, but you'd get the fun just the same.  We had to make our own fun.

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